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Vented Gas Logs, Features of Vented Gas Logs and Gas Log Sets

Thursday, March 8th, 2012

 

Real Fyre vented Gas Logs by Peterson have been warming homes, providing comfort, convenience and enjoyment for over 60 years.  The Hearth and Grill Shop has been carrying Real Fyre gas logs for the past 38 of those years.

Vented Gas Logs will provide a large, realistic looking gas log flame that is as close in appearance to a real wood fire without actually burning wood.  Obviously, one of the biggest advantages of Vented Gas Logs over wood burning is that Vented gas logs do not have to be carried in or ashes scooped and carried out.  Cutting, stacking, and seasoning wood is also eliminated.  Air pollutants are reduced and forest resources are preserved, making vented gas logs Eco-Friendly.  The ease in lighting and the appearance of Vented Gas Logs make them a wonderful alternative to burning wood.

Vented Gas Logs must be operated in either a masonry or prefabricated wood burning fireplace.  They must be used with the damper fully opened, just as if a wood fire was being burned.

There are several different types of controls for Vented Gas Logs.  The easiest is a manual gas floor valve on the outside of the fireplace and with a match or wand lighter the fire is lit manually.  This manual ignition may be prohibited in some areas (varies from county to county) and local codes may dictate that a safety pilot be required for Vented Gas Logs.  A safety pilot system on Vented gas logs may also be a good idea for families that have young children.  If the safety pilot is blown out or goes out for whatever reason there will not be any raw gas in the house.  There are also gas log remote controls for Vented gas that make lighting easy and safe.  Variable remote controls, which not only turn the unit on and off, but also move the flame up and down, are the most popular.  There are also, electronic pilot ignition units that do not have a standing pilot, but light only when the unit is turned on.

The dimensions of the fireplace and the type of controls will determine what size Vented gas logs would be best for any fireplace.  There are NO standard masonry fireplaces.  Every bricklayer or mason can make a fireplace any size they want.  The most important dimensions to measure are:  Across the back wall of the fireplace, across the front of the fireplace, the depth of the fire place and finally the height.  These dimensions with the controls and gas line factored in will ensure the perfect size logs for a fireplace.

The positive features of Vented Gas Logs are:

  • The most realistic looking flame pattern to imitate a real wood fire
  • The flame dances and engulfs logs like a real wood fire
  • The flame is more substantial and has the best ambiance
  • The ease of use over wood fires

The negative is that Vented gas logs burn a substantial amount of gas and they have to be operated with the fireplace damper fully open on the fireplace just like a real wood fire.  With the damper open, heat will be going up  the chimney, so Vented gas Logs are not an efficient heat source.  This may not be a negative, however.  Installing Vented Gas Logs in a fireplace where appearance and ambiance are more important than heat, such a formal den or dining room may be ideal for entertaining family and friends.

Real Fyre vented gas logs are available in more than 40 authentic styles and are handcrafted and hand painted to create the most realistic Vented log sets available.  Shop at The Hearth and Grill Shop to see the largest selection of Real Fyre Vented Gas Logs in the Southeast United States.

 

The Difference Between Vented and Vent Free Gas Logs

Friday, February 24th, 2012

Vented Gas Logs

Vented Gas Logs by Real Fyre

Vent Free Gas Logs

Vent Free Gas Logs

One of the most frequently asked questions at The Hearth & Grill Shop is, “What is the difference between Vented and Vent Free gas logs?”  The answers to that question are outlined below.

  1. Vented and Vent Free gas logs are as different in operation as night and day.  They are not interchangeable and an old set of Vented logs cannot be turned into Vent Free.  Vented logs operate more closely to a real wood fire, than do Vent Free.   Vented gas logs must be operated with the damper fully open on a wood-burning fireplace, either masonry with a flu and chimney or a prefabricated firebox with vent pipe.
  2. Vented gas logs, such as Real Fyre logs by Peterson, are typically installed for their realistic appearance, providing the flame and coals that most closely resemble a wood fire.  Vented gas logs will produce heat, however, Vented gas logs use more gas than do the vent free and have to be vented with significant portion of the heat going up chimney, therefore they are NOT an efficient heat source.
  3. Vent Free gas logs, such as Empire Comfort Systems, Peterson, and Vantage Hearth, are designed and manufactured to be operated in a wood burning fireplace, in good working order, with the damper closed or in a manufactured Vent Free firebox.  With the damper closed all of the heat being produced by the Vent Free logs stays in the room.
  4. Vent Free logs, also burn less gas than do the Vented gas logs.  Typically, half to two-thirds of gas is used with Vent Free, compared to the Vented logs.  The combination of consuming less gas and being operated in an environment where all the heat stays in the room make the Vent Free logs extremely efficient.
  5. It is important that a set of Vent Free gas logs be set up according to the manufacturers directions.  With the logs arranged properly and the burner combusting all of the gas that comes into the vent free logs are close to 100% efficient.  However, they do not have quite as realistic appearance, compared to the Vented gas logs.
  6. Vent Free gas logs are designed to be a supplemental source of heat and there are codes governing where vent free products can be used and how many BTU’s they can burn within the home.
  7. Vent Free gas logs can be used in an existing Masonry or Prefabricated wood-burning fireplace with the damper closed.  With the damper closed all the heat will travel to the top of the firebox and then out of the front of the fireplace.  There are strict clearances involved with combustible materials above and around the fireplace opening.  If there is a combustible (Wood) mantle or mantle shelf above the opening of the fireplace a deflective Hood may be necessary help alleviate clearance issues when using Vent Free gas logs.

Hopefully, this helped to clear up questions about the difference between Vented and Vent Free gas logs.  Come by The Hearth and Grill Shop to do your own comparison with live burn examples of both Vented and Vent Free gas logs available year round.

Shopping for Vent Free Gas Logs

Thursday, February 4th, 2010

 

When shopping for gas logs, the first question you will be asked at The Hearth and Grill Shop is whether you would like vented gas logs or vent-free gas logs.  There are several factors that will go into your decision.

 

Before that decision can be made, here are a few things to be aware of. The way vented and vent-free gas logs operate are completely different. They are not interchangeable and an old set of vented gas logs cannot be turned into vent-free.  Vented gas logs operate more closely to a real wood fire than they do their vent-free cousins.

 

Example of a vent-free firebox
Example of a vent-free firebox

The Hearth and Grill Shop offers over fifteen choices for vent-free gas log sets from three of the leading manufacturers in the United States. Empire Comfort Systems, Real-Fyre by Peterson and Vanguard offer a variety of sizes and styles sure to please even the most discerning eye.

 

But before you can make that decision, let’s go over some of the logistics of vent-free gas log products.

 
A vent-free gas log system operates with the damper closed on a wood burning fireplace or in a UL listed vent-free firebox. Fire box manufacturers include Vanguard, Empire Comfort Systems and Martin Industries. 100% of the heat produced from a vent-free gas log set emits into the room making it not only attractive but an efficient source of heat on a blustery day. With a vent-free gas log set, power outages won’t leave you in the cold. Vent-free gas logs require no electrical power and will be a welcome source of viable heat even if you are in the dark.

 

A vent-free gas log set also uses a fraction of fuel compared to their vented cousin.
The question often comes up as to exactly how do vent-free gas log operate with the damper closed on a fireplace? The first thing that makes a set of gas logs vent-free is the burner is designed to use 99% of all the gas that comes into it. Since all of the gas is combusted, the only byproducts are heat, water vapor and carbon dioxide(the same thing we breathe out).  Vent-free gas logs are not designed to be a primary heat source. They are designed to be an attractive, efficient, and dependable source of supplemental heat. Extended use of vent-free gas logs as a primary heat source isn’t recommended, as water vapor emitted can cause mildew issues over an extended period of time.

 
The second part of the vent-free gas log equation can’t be overstated. It is extremely important that the gas logs themselves  be set up and operated strictly per the manufacturer’s instructions. The gas logs and burner are designed to have the flame move up between and around the logs, but not to be in contact with the gas logs. Proper installation and placement of the logs are paramount in successful and satisfying operation of vent-free gas logs.

 

There are several different types of controls for a vent-free gas log system. The most cost effective is manual control on the valve of the unit. This manual valve turns the unit on and off and the flame up and down. Please bear in mind a manual control unit cannot be upgraded to another control type. The next option is the remote ready or Millivolt units that can be turned on and off from a switch or an on/off remote control. The remote ready units also have the ability to be controlled with various forms of thermostats or a wall switch. Due to the number of different types of control and the fact a remote can be added at any time, the remote ready units are the most popular. Variable flame remote controls are available from some manufacturers, such as, Peterson and Empire Comfort Systems. Variable remote control units boast the capability of being able to control your flame as well as turning it on and off.

 

The dimensions of your fireplace and the type of controls will determine what size vent-free gas log will be best for any fireplace. A masonry fireplace is only limited in size by your individual taste and have no specific standards for size. Every bricklayer or mason can make a fireplace the size a homeowner desires. When considering a vent-free gas log set, it is important to have the following measurements available when coming to The Hearth and Grill Shop.

 

Please measure:
1. Across the back wall of the fireplace
2. Across the front of the fireplace
3.The depth and height of the fireplace.

 

These dimensions with the controls and gas line

factored in will ensure the perfect size logs for a fireplace.

It's important to always consult a professional for the best results

It's important to always consult a professional for the best results

The positive features of Vent Free Gas Logs are:
o The best heat output the fireplace may obtain.
o Higher efficiency and less gas consumption.
o Less pollution
o Availability of various types of controls.

 

Though a vent-free gas log set has many features that their vented cousin can’t claim, a draw back of a vent-free set is that by nature of the way it must operate to be vent-free, their realistic look of wood can’t be reproduced as intricately. Also, with many new products, proper installation of a new vent-free log set will help eliminate the odors associated with its initial use. Another factor to take into consideration is that vent-free log sets emit enough heat that a hood may need to be installed. The hood will eliminate any possibility of damage caused from heat emissions from operating your vent-free log set with a closed damper in a fireplace setting.

 
The Hearth and Grill Shop has been proud to carry our vent-free products from Empire Comfort Systems, Real-Fyre by Peterson and Vanguard for over twenty years. Efficiency, dependability, appearance and savings on your gas bill have made vent-free gas logs a great investment and one of the most sought after items by The Hearth and Grill Shop customers.